KING MOUNTAIN
Ring-master Max on what comes after F1
Max takes it to the edge: Spielberg is an unforgiving circuit and it’s easy to exceed track limits or bounce over the kerbs. But these are the 20 best drivers in the world and they’re ready for anything.
The skies open above the Red Bull Ring, which means it’s time for Max the rain king to shine as he speeds away in the Sprint …
“What budget cap?” asks Lando Norris as the popular Brit gives fans a free taste of papaya.
The drivers have been gifted these beautiful Styrian harmonicas –just in case their cars need a tune-up.
Could last year’s winner Charles Leclerc do it again when he lines up on the front row for Ferrari today?
The drivers represented as saints: George, the patron saint of courage; Carlos, the patron saint of speed, and Lando, the patron saint of Star Wars
A winner here in 2001, David Coulthard will put the ‘can’ in Can-Am in today’s drivers’ parade.
Unable to hear team radio, Yuki asked for ‘more volume’ – so they gave him this bouffed-up hairdo.
Wet track, dry track – it doesn’t matter. With four Grand Prix wins plus his victory in the Sprint, Max Verstappen is the Red Bull Ring’s most successful driver.
The Red Bull Ring. I’ve got some great memories of this place, though if I’m honest there aren’t too many racing ones! I certainly feel like 2017 – when I was third behind Valtteri and Seb – was one of my favourite-ever races. I had a massive battle with Lewis over the fnal handful of laps, and to hold him off to get that last podium spot was pretty sweet as Mercedes were far ahead of us that year.
One of my other good memories was the time when Max and I did caravan racing here for Red Bull. I don’t think I’ve had that much fun on a racetrack too many times. It was insane and hilarious. If you haven’t seen it, check it out on YouTube – I’m sure it’s there. I think that was also back in 2017. Good times!
Other than those, I haven’t had many good Spielbergs! A ffth, a bunch of points, a couple of DNFs, nothing to write home about… but still it’s a place I like a lot. It’s picturesque, beautiful, and the backdrop is just awesome. And coming here as a Red Bull driver has always been huge.
The lap itself is very short and there are just 10 corners, so it’s not like Spa where maybe you can mess up one corner and still kind of gather up the rest of the lap again. At the Red Bull Ring, you can’t afford to make a blunder at any corner; if you do, your qualifying can change quite dramatically. It’s pretty intense. But it’s an experience that I enjoy.
Never mind the racing, though. If we’re talking Austria, we’re talking about schnitzel, right? I love schnitzel. No, I mean, I really love schnitzel. I always kind of joke about it, but I really do love coming here, especially for schnitzel.
Obviously my role in the team this year is third driver, which means a lot of time in the sim. And that’s honestly been the perfect scenario for me, because it’s allowed me to throttle back for a while. It also puts me back in an environment where I had the majority of my early success, the majority of my good memories.
The past couple of years had defnitely knocked my confdence. But now that I’m working in Milton Keynes again, I can see how important it was to return to an environment that allows me to
build that back up again by getting into the sim and driving a car I’m comfortable with and can perform well in. It’s the perfect place for me to build myself back up.
Maybe it’s just age and growth and maturity, but I really appreciate the team as family, which is what Red Bull is. I’m very grateful to be back here where it all started. Do I miss being out on track? I’d be lying if I said I didn’t. Of course, I don’t have a crystal ball and I can’t guarantee I’ll be racing next year, but while there was certainly a part of me last year that thought, “Oh, maybe this is it,” now I feel that’s not how it’s going to end. So it’s all good feelings at the moment. It feels like I’m fguring it all out, it’s all starting to make sense and I’m really looking forward to what comes next.
And for me that involves fnally getting back behind the wheel. After all the sim work, I’m due to drive the real-world RB19 for the frst time in a Pirelli tyres test after the race at Silverstone. I’m sure that it’ll really stimulate me and give me all those feels back. Naturally I’m going to put a bit of pressure on myself for that and try to remind the team I can still do it. We’ll see where it goes…
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Spielberg hasn’t always been kind to the Honey Badger, but it remains one of his favourite venues, if only for the Wiener schnitzel…
Maybe it’s just age... but I really appreciate the team as family, which is what Red Bull is
With 41 Grand Prix wins, two world titles, and powering towards a third championship, there isn’t much MAX VERSTAPPEN hasn’t done in F1. So what goals remain for the Dutchman? Sports-car champ? Team owner?
Bestselling author? Max tells us what the future could hold…
Interview JUSTIN HYNESIt’s not the sort of question many 25-year-old sportsmen get asked, but when you’ve hit as many heights as Max Verstappen has – and reached them at such a young age – it’s one that crops up with increasing regularity. Simply, what comes next?
True, the two-time world champion still has five years left to run on his current contract with Oracle Red Bull Racing, but the Dutchman has already admitted that beyond that point his motivation could begin to wane.
“If you can’t fully motivate yourself to get to every race, that’s the point when you have to question yourself,” he told Sky Sports at the Monaco Grand Prix. “When I am that age, I don’t want to travel to 25 races and travel to the UK for sim work.”
So, if all your childhood dreams have come true and the daily grind becomes too much, where do you go? The Red Bulletin sat down with Max to find out…
the red bulletin: You do quite a lot of endurance sim racing – is the real-world Le Mans on your radar for the future?
max verstappen: Yeah. I just don’t know when, or what year. It depends a bit on what’s happening with the Hypercar class, and what happens with the manufacturers coming in. But, yeah, eventually I would like to do so. I think Hypercar is still a work in progress,
With no more worlds left to conquer, what might Max’s next career move look like?
Styled by AlphaTauri
but that’s normal. It’s really the frst year proper, not everyone is there, and they haven’t got a good understanding of the Balance of Performance or even the cars in general yet. It takes a bit of time. I haven’t really driven the Hypercar in sim racing. It’s still quite limited in terms of how many cars have been released on the online platforms. Again, it takes a bit of time. But anyway I’ve been more into GT3.
What about racing America? Would you fancy a tilt at the Indy 500 or IndyCar in general?
No. Not because of the results I’ve had in F1 or anything; I just don’t think it’s worth it to go there and risk a big crash. I have seen a lot of people… I mean, of course, some never had any serious accidents, but the chance of having a big accident in general is there. So yeah, it’s not something I would do.
What about racing with your father, Jos? Would you like to race in a team with him, or would that be a bit weird?
No, I think it would be quite funny. And I would like to, but the time is ticking to be really competitive. We’ll see. Even if it’s not competitive, maybe we’ll fnd a way to do a fun thing together.
Jos mentored you all the way to Formula 1. If you were to have children of your own sometime in the future, would you coach them in a similar way to your father?
It’s an interesting idea. I don’t want this to be misunderstood – every person is different in terms of how they need to be coached – but yes, in the frst place I would approach it like my dad [laughs]. I would never push future children into racing in the frst place, but if they want to do it, I will of course help them out. The times have changed a bit, so I don’t really see myself driving a van all over Europe like my dad did. But if they want to race, and I see potential, of course we go all in and we’ll try everything we can. If you see the potential, you have to give it a go.
What about Max Verstappen as an entrepreneur? When you eventually stop racing, would you like to run a business?
Not necessarily a business. But I do see myself in racing, maybe with my own team, but not in F1 – no way, I would lose all my money! But yeah, defnitely something racing-related, maybe in a management structure, maybe not necessarily driving myself but just leading the team or whatever. I think it would be endurance-based, so probably starting off in GT3. I like that kind of environment. For me, the junior series have quite a different atmosphere, I would say. If I remember from when I was in junior series, your goal is Formula 1 and if that doesn’t work out it becomes quite tough to deal with and people can be quite demanding. Whereas I think if you get to GT3, I want to work with, let’s say, more established drivers, pro drivers. They accept their role; they don’t have that
desire to get to Formula 1. They know that GT is their life and their career, and that’s where they want to win. When you’re working in the junior categories, some have the desire to get to F1 and some don’t, but I don’t really see myself working with them.
When you do fnally step away from your career as a driver, you’ll have a pretty phenomenal story to tell. So could you be the next Guenther Steiner? Do you think that maybe you would like to write your autobiography?
Yes and no. Actually, probably not. I think that would be better for everyone! I think it would probably be way too controversial anyway, and [there are] some things I just don’t want people to know. And also I’m too lazy to go and sit down with someone to write my whole life story. I don’t know, I think it’s better not to do that. My dad said at one point that he wanted to write a book, but I told him maybe it’s better not to do that and just keep it all between ourselves.
Are there any sports other than motor racing that you’d like to be good at? Would you run a marathon, for example?
No, never! It’s way too long. I get bored after six kilometres of running, anyway. I know that a marathon is different and people are cheering you on, but I can’t see myself pushing all the way to the end. I just always liked four wheels, anything related to four wheels, or even two wheels. But I know, of course, that at this age it’s not possible any more to be competitive at that; you really need to start when you’re young, otherwise you’re always behind and you can never compete with the younger generation. And I’m probably also not fexible enough any more to really get on top of things with a bike. In terms of other sports, it’s just mainly racing-related stuff. I know that with other sports I’m not very good at them. Maybe if you focus on it a bit more, you might get decent, but you will never be anything special, so… not for me.
You’re currently in your ninth season of Formula 1 and yet you’re still only 25, so you could conceivably continue racing in the sport for another two decades…
I could, but I won’t. That’s why I want to do these other kinds of things. They’re still quite intense, but they’re not as intense as Formula 1. There are also a lot less weekends in general. And also, when you are not the driver, when you are a bit more in the background, you have a lot of people around you also
sorting things out, right? So you’re not 100-per-cent involved with the day-to-day operation. There are some things you probably do have to manage, but it’s a bit different; you can enjoy more of your life as well. Anyway, I will want to just sit back a bit more and let other good people make good decisions, but still be involved in the racing.
You talk about getting involved in motorsports at a managerial level. At the stage you are now in your driving career, are you a bit like a senior footballer, where it’s almost like you’re watching how the team ownership level works and soaking all that up? Are you kind of getting your coaching badges in the process?
I said to myself from when I was little that I always wanted to do something in racing; even if I didn’t make it to Formula 1, maybe I would set something up with my dad. If I hadn’t made it, initially it would have been something in karting, but then maybe it would have transformed into other racing stuff. So yeah, I always had that dream to do these kinds of things. And now, of course, I can make those dreams reality in the future, so I’m quite excited about that. But I also know that this can be done in a few years’ time, right? I have to make the most of it now in Formula 1, because that defnitely won’t go on for ever. That’s what I’m enjoying right now, and then hopefully you have another 50 years to enjoy a different kind of life.
“I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOST OF F1, BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY WON’T GO ON FOR EVER“Max reveals that if he hadn’t got the career breaks to bring him into F1, he would have branched out into running his own karting team In the (distant) future, Max would run his own team, making the calls from the pit wall – although not in F1, because “I’d lose all my money!”
Hamilton vs Russell, Ocon vs Gasly, Norris vs Piastri – it’s a vintage year for teammate rivalries. But whether any of them gets as fery as these fve F1 pairings remains to be seen. Here’s our pick of the best feuds…
1984
The classic tale of a young pretender taking on an old master. Double world champion Lauda quit Formula 1 in 1979 to run his airline, but then returned in 1982 with McLaren. Incoming alongside the Austrian driver was the younger, quicker Alain Prost, on the rebound from an acrimonious split with Renault. Lauda knew he was in for a tough time when Prost outqualifed him by half a second in the opening round of the Brazilian Grand Prix and won the race. As the trend continued, Lauda, the wily old campaigner, changed tack and focused all his energy on set-up for the race. The strategy paid off. Lauda would only outqualify the Frenchman once – at the Dallas GP – but on Sundays the Austrian bounced back consistently. He won at Kyalami, Dion, Brands Hatch, on home soil at the Österreichring, and then at Monza to take the title battle all the way to the wire. And although Prost went on to win the fnal race in Portugal, Lauda’s long-game approach and P2 at Estoril paid off with a third World Championship title – by just half a point, the slimmest margin in the competition’s history.
Fernando Alonso arrived at McLaren as the reigning double world champion and probably expected to be given priority over the upstart rookie he was being paired with for the 2007 season. But Lewis Hamilton had other ideas. The 22-year-old Brit took podiums at the frst four races to lead the title race. He complained that he had been denied a chance at victory in Monaco by his own team who favoured Alonso. It all came to a head in Hungary, where Alonso, irked by a slight by Hamilton in qualifying, blocked his teammate in the pits and was penalised. The bitterness spilled over into other areas, and at the end of the season the Spaniard quit and returned to Renault.
Two-time champ Piquet arrived at Williams expecting to be top dog, but Mansell, who had taken a pair of hard-fought wins in his frst season with the team in 1985, hadn’t read the script. After the Brazilian won the opening round in his native GP, the Brit notched up wins in Belgium, Canada, France and at home to lead the championship with seven rounds remaining. Piquet spent much of the latter part of the season trying to destabilise his teammate, including making disparaging remarks about Mansell’s wife and his upbringing, but the Brit took the fght to the fnal round in Australia. There, Mansell was on course to take the title, but a tyre failure ended his race. Piquet was forced to pit for a new set as a precaution, and Alain Prost stole through to take the win and the World Championship.
Red Bull Racing’s dominance of the early 2010s pitted Sebastian Vettel against Mark Webber. The pair had a few fashpoints: they collided at the 2010 Turkish Grand Prix and at that year’s British GP, where Webber won and radioed his team to say, “Not bad for a number-two driver.” Their most (in)famous clash came in Malaysia in 2013. Webber was leading Vettel –and the race – when the team issued the ‘Multi-21’ coded order to maintain position. Vettel ignored it, muscled past the Australian and took the win. Cue enough freworks to make July 4 look like a sparkler.
When Hamilton joined Mercedes in 2013, he was reunited with his friend from his karting days. But the amity between the two swiftly evaporated as Mercedes became F1’s top team, and in 2016 it became especially bitter as Rosberg mounted a sustained title charge. The pair battled in Bahrain, collided in Spain, threw veiled insults, and fnally hurled hats at each other after the US Grand Prix. The title fght went down to the wire in Abu Dhabi, where Rosberg won the title. Five days later, Rosberg quit the sport, going out at the peak of his powers.
Racing games have come a long way from the arcade. These days the F1 world champion, Max Verstappen, spends his free time racing in advanced simulations. Let’s take a quick look at the games that bring the F1 circus to your home...
Developer: International Mutoscope Corp
Since: 1941
Pre-dating even F1, this was where it all began. Essentially you steered a car on the end of a stick, avoiding cut-outs of other cars rolling past on a barrel. Press the accelerator and the barrel moves faster until you run out of money or, inevitably, crash – not entirely unlike old F1, then.
Developer: Namco
Since: 1982
As arcade games developed, incorporating video and then digital graphics, Namco brought this racing title into our living room, playable on the Atari 2600 console. Based on Tokyo’s Fuji Speedway, Pole Position involved driving fast in (mostly) a straight line and negotiating the occasional bend. Electronic Games magazine described it as “reasonably faithful to real life”, which in 1982 was a glowing review. In 1984, it even spawned a cartoon. It was rubbish.
Developer: Sega
Since: 1992
Capitalising on Senna’s global superstardom, this game put players behind the wheel of an F1 car to take
on the 16 tracks from the 1991 F1 World Championship, plus another three fantasy tracks where you could earn a Super Licence. Innovations included two difficulty settings – Beginner and Master – as well as qualifying and Free Practice mode, and players could even customise the transmission to automatic, semi-automatic and fully manual. Now we were motoring.
F1 2023
Developer:
EA Sports/Codemasters
Since: 2009
The boss of F1 games is even used by pros to learn the circuits. With the latest version out now, this game has it all: every car, every track, and a load of collectibles to turn your avatar’s home into a world-class player’s pad. F1 2023 is customisable to the finest detail: if you can’t beat Max and Lewis fairly, you can make them drive like simpletons and turn your car into a rocket on rails. And once you get bored of winning World Championships, you can go online to take on other gamers. Owned by EA Sports since 2021, Codemasters has produced the official F1 game since 2008 and is also behind such classics as Micro Machines, Colin McRae: Dirt and F1 Race Stars, which features power-ups and even weapons.
Developer: Playsport Games
Since: 2014
This indie game presents the complexities of taking a small team all the way to the top of international motorsports and features a series that looks a lot like F1 as well as WEC and GT racing. Starting in lower championships, the player must develop the car, work to improve the drivers, and even bring the next generation of youngsters through via a support programme. And like a modern entrepreneur, you can do it all with a mobile phone.
F1 Manager
Developer: Frontier
Since: 2022
Have you got what it takes to steer your team to the front? You’re in charge of every aspect of F1 team management, from race strategy and pit-stop training to sim time and developing the car. In other words, you’re not only Christian Horner but also Adrian Newey (chief technical officer), Jonathan Wheatley (sporting director), Hannah Schmitz (senior strategy engineer) and Guillaume Rocquelin (head of race engineering). And since you also get to mentor the junior team drivers, you’re Helmut Marko, too. The only complaint about the first version of the game was that it was too easy. Frontier has announced that the 2023 version will be much more taxing…
As flown by: Stanislav C ˇ ejka, Jan Rudzinskij and Miroslav Krejci
Start time: 1:50pm
Profle: The Czech Republic’s acclaimed Flying Bulls Aerobatic Team have fown the XA-42 since 2015. Made by specialist aerobatic plane manufacturer XtremeAir, the light aircraft has 315bhp and a top speed of 420kph.
As flown by: Austrian Air Force
Start time: 2:46pm
Profle: Flying the Austrian, the Styrian and the F1 fag, the Agusta Bell 212 is a versatile helicopter with twin rotors and powerful lifting capabilities, used for airdrops and pick-up procedures, transport of material and goods, rescue missions, air ambulance and fre-fghting.
As flown by: Richard Browning, Paul Jones and Issa Kalfon
Start time: 2:24pm
Profle: Each powered by five miniature jet engines in the arms and back, generating 1,050bhp, these revolutionary jet suits allow their pilots to fy like Iron Man.
Before the start of the race, more than 70 artists including singer and actor Christopher Seiler and soprano Juliette Khalil will perform a new piece by composer Christian Kolonovits that fuses the Austrian national anthem with the Dachsteinlied, the anthem of Styria.
The skies over the Red Bull Ring will be flled this weekend with stunning classic aircraft from the Flying Bulls and a display in cutting-edge Gravity Jet Suits. Here’s some trivia to impress your friends…
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As seen: Spying for Errol Flynn in the 1945 film Objective, Burma!
Start time: 2:50pm
Profle: Nicknamed “two planes, one pilot” by the Japanese, the P-38 was designed as a high-speed interceptor, and its long range made it an effective spy plane. While more than 10,000 were built, the P-38 is very rare – few are still fying, and this is the only one in Europe.
As flown by: Dr Evil in Austin Powers: Goldmember
Start time: 2:50pm
Profle: This legendary attack helicopter was the backbone of the US Army’s air power in the Vietnam War. There are only two in Europe. Built in 1967, this one became part of the Flying Bulls’ collection in 2019 and has been fully restored and customised.
As flown by: French aerobatics team Patrouille de France
Start time: 2:50pm
Profle: Combining superb fight capabilities with technical reliability, the Alpha Jet is used as a training, instructional, attack and aerobatic aircraft, most notably by the French Air Force. The German Air Force retired theirs in the 1990s, and the Flying Bulls added four to their feet.
As seen in: Flags of Our Fathers
Start time: 2:50pm
Profle: A masterpiece of engineering, the Corsair was a carrier-based aircraft used in large numbers by the US Navy and Marines in late 1944 and early 1945. This Corsair is 78 years old and is one of only 15 still fying.
How well do you know the Red Bull Ring? Here are some crucial stats to help you win any around-the-barbecue arguments about who’s the biggest F1 fan
The downhill T4 (Rauch) is the trickiest corner – it’s hard on the brakes, it’s an overtaking spot, and if you get the exit wrong you’ll screw up the quickfire T5-T6-T7.
The fastest section is after T1 (Niki Lauda), where the cars top 320kph.
The Red Bull Ring is the only F1 circuit that’s a neighbour to an airport, a golf course and a pumpkin field.
The Red Bull Ring has hosted 37 Grands Prix between 1970 and 2023. That’s 35 Austrian GPs plus two Styrian Grands Prix in 2020 and 2021.
Max Verstappen has the record for the most wins: five. He also has the record number of poles – four – and is one of only two drivers to have won a Grand Slam here: Max did it at the 2021 Austrian Grand Prix and Jo Siffert in 1971.
The nearby Mur river flows into the Danube, meaning it’s possible to travel from here to the Hungarian Grand Prix by kayak.
The Red Bull Ring is built on the slopes of Schönberg, which means ‘beautiful mountain’.
The difference in height between the lowest and highest point is 65m.
24 drivers have stood on the top step at Spielberg so far…
No driver has managed to win here more than twice in a row.
The biggest margin of victory was at the 1986 Austrian Grand Prix when Alain Prost won more than a lap ahead of the field.
The smallest margin of victory here was 0.05 seconds as Elio de Angelis held Keke Rosberg at bay to win in 1982.
Jackie Stewart was crowned World Champion in Austria in 1971. He’s the only driver to have wrapped up the title here.
Good overtaking points include T1, T3, T4 and T10 just before the DRS zone on the main straight.
T3 is the hardest braking point as cars slow from 320kph to 67kph in just 125m. In the 2.5 seconds it takes to slow down for T3, the drivers pull 5.5Gs. If, like Max Verstappen, you weigh 72kg, that’s like suddenly weighing 396kg – for 2.5 seconds.
With only two left-hand corners, the tyres on the left-hand side of the car work hardest and take a pummelling at the Red Bull Ring.
Last year, drivers performed just short of 2,500 gear changes in 71 laps or 306.58km.
At 677m above sea level, the Red Bull Ring is the thirdhighest track in the F1 calendar. Interlagos is at around 700m, while Hermanos Rodríguez is at 2,200m. The cars require ‘open bodywork’ to help stay cool.
The lap record at the Red Bull Ring is 1:05.619. It was set by Carlos Sainz at the 2020 Styrian Grand Prix.
The Red Bull Ring is the only F1 circuit with a shuttle bus to the nearest supermarket.
Only nine Austrians have taken part in the Austrian Grand Prix, and Niki Lauda is the only winner. But at 11 per cent that’s a pretty good win rate.
From Daniel’s shoey to Lewis autographing the camera to Seb giving everyone the fnger, the podium is your moment to go viral and be spread all over TikTok. Here are some ideas to help you punch up your podium game…
For instant inspiration, scan the QR codes to watch the clips…
Bring some subcontinental flavour to your podium party with the Naatu Naatu dance from the smash Indian film RRR, as seen at the Academy Awards ceremony. For Naatu Naatu, actors Ram Charan and Jr NTR perform hundreds of exhausting kicks in perfect unison to demonstrate the virility and common aims of the heroes. That says F1 winner to us.
With a nice ‘Greatest Of All Time’ double meaning, this TikTok-trending dance challenge uses the intro to Goated by Armani White as a celebration for the whole team. It’s all about attitude as the winning driver dances robotically and then his teammates come into frame doing the same dance.
The meme showing three versions of Spider-Man all pointing at one another is another all-time favourite. And this one got a dramatic boost when Spidey actors Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire recreated it to promote the Marvel movie Spider-Man: No Way Home
TikToker Ava Williams’s girl-ona-train video kicked off a global trend: portray your everyday life as if you’re in a film by auteur director Wes Anderson. Set to a plucky orchestral score, the video is all whimsical characters with deadpan expressions, framed in perfect symmetry and shot in sepia tones. It’s all delightfully off-kilter, and the smartest way to say, “I am clever. I am different.”
An all-time classic. As created by Alfonso Ribeiro for The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, this has gone on to become a beloved meme.
From Carlos Sainz’s Smooth Operator (scan code below left) to Lando Norris’s It’s Friday Then, It’s Saturday, Sunday, What?! (below right) everyone likes a sing-song. But the choice of tune is crucial. How about Happy by Pharrell Williams, Good Feeling by Flo Rida, or maybe All I Do Is Win by DJ Khaled?
Channel your inner Leonardo DiCaprio as the actor embodies the Great Gatsby, a glamorous and mysterious millionaire in the Roaring ’20s. This means bringing an air of sophistication to your moment in the spotlight rather than spraying a magnum of champagne down the back of your team strategist’s neck.
Didn’t win? Didn’t finish in the top three? Not even a driver? Never fear: just turn up on the podium, wrestle the trophy off the winner, and join in the fun before anyone realises you’re there.
