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GM: What’s a rock star? Um. [Laughs]. Interviews. Snow. Hip-hip crowds. We're too busy to be rock stars.

RS: Oh fuck that. It's so depressing watching old bands get together - "We're 45 man! We still rock!" It's all wrong.

RS: I don't think there are any rock stars anymore.

HE: Alright, last question: any books that particularly inspire you creatively?

GS: I don't think there ever were. I think it was all an urban myth. RS: See, Axl Rose is a rock star...but everyone thinks he's a cunt now. HE: Where do you guys see yourselves in 10 years? GM: Funny, we were kind of discussing that last night over a bottle of wine. HE: What kind of wine was it?

GM: The one with the caterpillar, and by the end it turns into a butterfly. I tried to read Naked Lunch, but it was too homoerotic. RS: Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell is good. It's not fiction, but it's fucking interesting. HE: So you’re a non-fiction guy? RS: I used to be a fiction guy. But then I got bored of reading people's creative...um, filth.

RS: It was good, it was red.

GM: I'm going to try to read Tolstoy this year. Something to do.

GM: I think it was Californian.

RS: Doesn't count if it's an attempt.

RS: Hopefully something different. GM: You know, Pendulum will be the kind of thing where we have a reunion tour.

Pendulum’s new album, Immersion (Deluxe Version), is available now on Warner Music UK Limited.

For more information on Pendulum and to find tour dates near you, visit www.pendulum.com

interview conducted by Hans Edquist words by Sarah Miniaci photos courtesy of Warner Music

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